I can't believe I actually knew where it was at, that is very rare. I think mine is older than the one on eBay and for sure heavier duty. I still have the tool case for it, but it shows a lot of wear and tear. In the case it weighs 15.8 pounds and just the tool 12.2 pounds using a pretty accurate digital scale. So it is a couple pounds heavier than the 10 pound one on eBay. For the tool on eBay, click here.
The guy on eBay doesn't know much more than what it is because his description of how Orangeburg pipe was put together is all wrong. The 10 foot lengths of pipe came with a male taper on each end and the fittings all came with only male tapers. A coupling had to be used at every connection and no pipe went inside of another pipe. It was used outside the foundation of a building mostly for sewer and gutter/downspout water collection underground piping. At the start it's beginning it was used for potable water distribution, but that was back in the mid and late 1800s. It only had about a 50 year life expectancy and it was basically pulp paper impregnated with tar and resins. Roots could easily force their way through the coupling joints that just went together with a couple gentle taps with a mallet or the flat of a 2x4 and a regular hammer so it didn't bust up the ends of the fairly fragile pipe.
1. [attachment=4924:OB_taper-001.jpg] .... 2. [attachment=4925:OB_taper-002.jpg] .... 3. [attachment=4926:OB_taper-003.jpg]
4. [attachment=4927:OB_taper-004.jpg] .... 5. [attachment=4928:OB_taper-005.jpg] .... 6. [attachment=4930:OB_taper-006.jpg]
The handle is 19.5 inches with 3 inch grips and has needle bearings for the 7/8 inch diameter expanding drum shaft that is 7 inches long with a 4 inch shaft
handle that pivots 90° from the shaft to tighten and expand the drum in the 4 inch id pipe. The expanding drum is 6.5 inches long and is only for 4 id pipe.
7. [attachment=4931:OB_taper-007.jpg] .... 8. [attachment=4933:OB_taper-008.jpg] .... 9. [attachment=4934:Taper_eBay.jpg]
Number 7 is the taper cutting blade for the outside of the pipe and number 8 is the smaller blade to clean up the pipe's inside from the rough handsaw cut. 9 is the Taper Tool on eBay for $489.00.
It actually was sort of a delicate process to get a good taper because the bituminous fiber would gouge or chip very easily temperature really affected it. Cold it got brittle and hot like Phoenix in the summer it would start to oval shape from it's own weight. It was pretty much a pain in the butt to work with. A lot of places make you take it out now as a health hazard and plumbers make big bucks replacing it with PVC sewer weight plastic pipe. In Googling I ran across one guy talking about it costing $6,000.00 to have 150 feet of it replaced. History of Orangeburg Pipe. Wikipedia Info.
[attachment=4935:Ovaled With Age 1.JPG] .... [attachment=4936:Ovaled With Age 2.JPG]
This is what it looks like with age and root damage. It has a 50 year life expectancy before it ovals and collapses.
[attachment=4937:Old 1956 Ad.jpg] Old 1956 Ad. Root Proof Pipe, Ya Right!
Gilaoro - My Orangeburg Pipe Taper Tool
Started by FrogMick, Nov 15 2010 05:35 PM
3 replies to this topic
#1
FrogMick
-
- American Military Veteran
-
- 1,620 posts
Thousand Plus Posts
- Gender:Male
Posted 15 November 2010 - 05:35 PM
#2
Gilaoro
-
- Prospector / Miner
- 1,064 posts
AMERICAN MILITARY MEMBER and MAJOR MINER
- Gender:Male
- Location:Wickenberg ,AZ
- Interests:Gold prospecting-Meeting people- Helping miners-Everyday Living.
Posted 16 November 2010 - 06:16 AM
FrogMick, You had better raise your price if he sells his! That thing is hugemongeous!!
Max
Max
#3
FrogMick
-
- American Military Veteran
-
- 1,620 posts
Thousand Plus Posts
- Gender:Male
Posted 16 November 2010 - 04:34 PM
Max,
He's got 1 day 5 hrs. left on his Buy Now so it's been there for awhile. I'm guessing it isn't going anywhere except in his garage or where ever he had it before eBay.
In your thread, "Man sized gold tools", old timer83 suggested donating them to a museum. I have already done that with some old photos and news clippings plus another time with some very old family photos and other items.
So I went Googling last night for tool museums thinking one of them might want the old Orangeburg taper tool. I was surprised to find that tool specific museums are almost as plentiful as "hen's teeth". I actually only found one little private one that has a site advertising itself online, Bolt's Tool Museum, Oroville, CA. It might be small, but these folks are really serious about tools!
So I am thinking about donating the taper tool to them if they want it, I haven't contacted them yet. Have you ever visited Bolt's Tool Museum? From their site description of it it sounds very interesting.
Paul
He's got 1 day 5 hrs. left on his Buy Now so it's been there for awhile. I'm guessing it isn't going anywhere except in his garage or where ever he had it before eBay.
In your thread, "Man sized gold tools", old timer83 suggested donating them to a museum. I have already done that with some old photos and news clippings plus another time with some very old family photos and other items.
So I went Googling last night for tool museums thinking one of them might want the old Orangeburg taper tool. I was surprised to find that tool specific museums are almost as plentiful as "hen's teeth". I actually only found one little private one that has a site advertising itself online, Bolt's Tool Museum, Oroville, CA. It might be small, but these folks are really serious about tools!
So I am thinking about donating the taper tool to them if they want it, I haven't contacted them yet. Have you ever visited Bolt's Tool Museum? From their site description of it it sounds very interesting.
Paul
#4
Gilaoro
-
- Prospector / Miner
- 1,064 posts
AMERICAN MILITARY MEMBER and MAJOR MINER
- Gender:Male
- Location:Wickenberg ,AZ
- Interests:Gold prospecting-Meeting people- Helping miners-Everyday Living.
Posted 17 November 2010 - 03:06 AM
FrogMick, Nope never heard of it, I used to see lots those little local muesums when I was on the road escorting oversize trucks,
the various states in their wisdom route you to a who knows plan! In Texas they run you on "Farm to Market" roads of which they have lots!.
You can not run the freeways in most cases, only the service roads, if there is a little town that has a court house square that follows the old wagon roads go one way and thats around the courthouse before you exit at the same place you enter then thats the way your permit will read.
So you get a lot of sitting in traffic being #1 to all the locals and looking at all the old places still in business and the county muesums with signs says
the peterified Saschwuach 8' man or some such, there's one in east Texas near Paris that has a bunch of the old carinval monstrosities, 2 headed calfs and stuff.
But we never had time to stop or come back later, for instance there's one that always made me want to drive 500 miles back to see what it was, it a little sign pointing off the freeway saying "Visit Gene Autry" Yep, the map shows the town of Gene Autry ,OK.
If you are a prospector and think you have traveled the high deserts of southern California I can tell you that you have not! I thought I knew the back roads but I have been on loads that went from AZ to Temecula and where you never on pavement for more than the distance it took to put you back on the gravel ! You start up behind 29 Palms and you see cactus farms,Lama ranches and the signs pointing off into the hill on a single track and the keepout signs and you know that some "End Of the Roader" lives back there with his own gold mine !
In Wyoming its antlers, again they don't beleive in letting trucks hauling a peice of machinery 22 foot wide and 22 foot tall to Ft Mc Murry ,Canada use anything except ranch roads, within sight of the freeway but not on it. But you see these lonesome driveways headed in to the hills and Antlers, Gates of, piles of and artistic stacks of antlers, we once overnighted in the little town of Kit Carson in the best little motel and home cooked meals I ever found on the road and went for a walk, every place in town had antlers hanging somewhere and this place is out in the middle of no where, in the plains!
We often said that we will come back here someday in the motor home and just look around, well the only places we ever revisited was the "Flying Hook and Pilots" stations and of course Denny's !
I have already donated the limit this year and have too much tied up in them just to outright gift them, if I have to keep them and store them they can join my 600 + 1920's candy containers, hundreds of LBs of agate and crystal and such, much of it from 30 years ago and unavailable for collection today and my wifes 50 or so LBs of cartarige cases of every caliber, we are packrats and need a muesum of our own!
Max
the various states in their wisdom route you to a who knows plan! In Texas they run you on "Farm to Market" roads of which they have lots!.
You can not run the freeways in most cases, only the service roads, if there is a little town that has a court house square that follows the old wagon roads go one way and thats around the courthouse before you exit at the same place you enter then thats the way your permit will read.
So you get a lot of sitting in traffic being #1 to all the locals and looking at all the old places still in business and the county muesums with signs says
the peterified Saschwuach 8' man or some such, there's one in east Texas near Paris that has a bunch of the old carinval monstrosities, 2 headed calfs and stuff.
But we never had time to stop or come back later, for instance there's one that always made me want to drive 500 miles back to see what it was, it a little sign pointing off the freeway saying "Visit Gene Autry" Yep, the map shows the town of Gene Autry ,OK.
If you are a prospector and think you have traveled the high deserts of southern California I can tell you that you have not! I thought I knew the back roads but I have been on loads that went from AZ to Temecula and where you never on pavement for more than the distance it took to put you back on the gravel ! You start up behind 29 Palms and you see cactus farms,Lama ranches and the signs pointing off into the hill on a single track and the keepout signs and you know that some "End Of the Roader" lives back there with his own gold mine !
In Wyoming its antlers, again they don't beleive in letting trucks hauling a peice of machinery 22 foot wide and 22 foot tall to Ft Mc Murry ,Canada use anything except ranch roads, within sight of the freeway but not on it. But you see these lonesome driveways headed in to the hills and Antlers, Gates of, piles of and artistic stacks of antlers, we once overnighted in the little town of Kit Carson in the best little motel and home cooked meals I ever found on the road and went for a walk, every place in town had antlers hanging somewhere and this place is out in the middle of no where, in the plains!
We often said that we will come back here someday in the motor home and just look around, well the only places we ever revisited was the "Flying Hook and Pilots" stations and of course Denny's !
I have already donated the limit this year and have too much tied up in them just to outright gift them, if I have to keep them and store them they can join my 600 + 1920's candy containers, hundreds of LBs of agate and crystal and such, much of it from 30 years ago and unavailable for collection today and my wifes 50 or so LBs of cartarige cases of every caliber, we are packrats and need a muesum of our own!
Max
0 user(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users
